My View – Antigua (Guatemala) to Roatan (Honduras) [Rob´s entry (#3)]
Regardless of the date listed above, this was entered January 4, 2006
Standard disclaimer: Anna does an excellent job covering the positive aspects of our trip, and I try to fill the ‘other side’.
Some of you will recognize “My View”. Borrowing from Mr. Condit seemed appropriate, very blunt and direct.
Antigua was a different experience than the others. One reason is that we stayed put for a couple of weeks in one location, and with a host family. Historic Antigua (where we stayed) had a distinctive architecture that deviated considerably from the cinder block boxes prevalent throughout Mexico and most of Central America we’ve traveled through. The colonial architecture and cobblestone streets, though nice, seemed a bit pale, and after so much time spent in Europe left us both unimpressed. Antigua was also a bit dodgy, as we heard several stories of violence-robberies in recent times. The armed “tourist police” escorted us to the cross hill, and they escort groups hiking up the volcanoes. The school where we studied was adequate, though it supplied us with many stories. First off, boy, do they pump out kids. Actually, the whole domestic scene was was a little shocking. Here is the typical story we heard over and over. A couple gets married and begins with…you guessed it, kids. Lots of kids! My first teacher had 7, the lady we stayed with had 5, one of her sons was about 32 and had 5, and so on. The women stay home cooking, washing, and raising kids. The men however, have a different agenda. In comes the novea(s) [girlfriend(s)].These are the women that get taken out to restaurants, talked to, etc.- and commonly the guy begins a brood of kids with her/them. The school owner had a wife (we lived with her and her 5 adult offspring as mentioned) and a girlfriend. Same with my first teacher, etc. The other scenario is that the father takes off to El Salvador. We certainly met a few women with better stories, but the above-described scenarios we heard many times. As for our particular living arrangement, there was a constant parade of kids coming/going, and we gave up very early trying to figure out who was related to who, whose kids were whose, etc. Now here is an interesting twist in these arrangements. For us living in the industrialized world, such a situation would be a total train wreck, the stuff of “Classic Springer”. Here however, it SEEMS to work out fairly smoothly! The kids seem well adjusted, all seem to bee taken care of by everyone, etc. Understand that this is only my conclusion based upon the briefest of observations. One family member we could easily identify living with us was the woman's (of the house) granddaughter of about 14 years old. She was easy to identify because there was only one of her age (as opposed to the abundance of 2-8 year olds) We struggled o confirm who her parents were, but were told that it is typical for kids to live with their grand,mothers. Oh well….
We found the central park to be a mild place of interest. Particularly sad were the shoe-shine boys. They were typically 7-8 years old with a shine kit and a baseball cap that didn´t fit. On the surface, one might find them cute as we idealize the capitalist notions of hard work and the entrepreneurial spirit. Some might conjure Norman Rockwell-like images of a newspaper route or lemonade stand. Several tourists even took photos of/with the children- for payment. The problem is the payment. While I´m sure there are some exceptions to the lifestyle, locals confirmed my suspicion that the kids are being pimped out, typically be alcoholic parents or some other exploiting adult.. School is not obligatory in Guat. and many kids begin shining shoes and spend the rest of their lives doing nothing more. Another park story involved a charming well-mannered girl (she said she was 15) who started a conversation with us. It gave us a chance to practice our Spanish as she asked us about our lives, etc. Both Anna and I were slightly suspicious, but going along with the conversation as she explained what she wanted to do with her live, the importance of education, etc. Then came the story of the bus injury as she lifted her pant leg to reveal a hideous growth/lesion/injury/?. I examined it, but without training, it just looked awful to me. Then the request for funds for the needed operation to save the leg began. Giving the benefit of the doubt, we gave the equivalent of about 25 cents (explaining that was all we had on us). We later found out that our suspicions were likely confirmed, medical care is free for children. Oh well, what can one do but learn.
That incident represented something really lacking for me in this trip. Unlike other travels, we´ve failed to make a genuine connection with the people here (except for the homestays). In the touristy areas, we re typically viewed as someone to sell something to. In other areas (such as where we were on Roatan), there seems to be an impenetrable invisible barrier between the locals and westerners. It is a little sad for me, but we keep trying.
Another feature of Antigua (and other cities as well, but we really noticed it there) was the air pollution. I so much remember people back home complaining of tighter emission standards for vehicles years ago, and recent efforts to loosen clean air standards. I so much want to take those folks along side the street where we stayed. The typical mode of transport is the famed “chicken bus” (we rode a few of them, and though our experiences were more similar to sardines than poultry, we failed to see a single feather, though we know that all sorts of things [including chickens] are routinely transported), which are old US school buses in desperate need of mechanical repair. They are often decorated and elaborated painted as they pour out voluminous plumes of black smoke as they thunder down the street. As many of the streets were cobblestones, this limited their speed, thus allowing more time to fill the air with foul smelling smoke. At times, it was one after another. Particularly eerie (and disturbing) was at night when vehicles had their lights on. With the lights illuminating (and attenuated by) the smoke could one fully appreciate the situation. It was a thick fog on the street. On the one hand, I applaud the continued use of equipment, but on the other, shutter at the em missions. I don´t know much about engines, but suspect that some repair (with their cheaper labor) could only help matters.
The Spanish instruction was adequate, and after changing to a better teacher, I´m satisfied with the experience. Knowing what we know now, we could do it all much cheaper. Anna had a great teacher, and with her aptitude for languages, vastly exceeded my skill level, even though I had a year of Spanish in high school in addition. The owner of the school fulfilled most of his promises to us, but was still a dirt-bag. Aside from his personal antics, we heard repeatily that he was always reluctant to pay the teachers, claiming that he was out of money- though we paid up front.
Our next stop was Copan, just over the boarder with Honduras. The crossing went smoother than the one with Mex-Guat. When the van unloaded us in Copan, everyone was immediately assaulted by the touts with rooms. We hooked up with an English man who was interested n our Belizian currency from last year (it is all but worthless outside Belize). While we tied to work out the details and find a room, one somewhat pathetic and annoying person latched on to the three of us. He insisted that he knew the best room, etc. Did I mention that he was somewhat grotesquely disfigured with one eye “poked out”? After much “assistance”, he hit us up for a tip, which we refused- not to be jerks as we did occasionally reward someone who truly did help us, but because he really didn´t do anything special, we never asked for help, and tried to convince him that we didn´t want his ”help”. While at the central park, a girl sat down near us and tried to start a conversation. Still remembering our Antigua experience (they started identical), we abruptly left. Of course, I´ll offer a thousand apologies if we misinterpreted her actions, but our ordeal with the annoying tout combined with the heat, humidity (much more than Antigua), and fatigue left us unreceptive to another apparent scam. The Mayan ruins at Copan were pretty awesome, as I´m sure Anna will comment on. We got our money´s worth (as much as possible at $10 each) by spending most of the day there. Planning out exit out of Copan was a little interesting however. There were three bus companies all offering service to our next stop. The company that worked out best with our plans was represented by a office worker that was very rude and couldn´t care less about anything. We stopped back the next day to confirm the schedule, and she was either having a medical condition or strung out on drugs. I´ve never seen someone with such a glazed expression, and she mumbled out a “yes” to all questions asked. Fortunately, the next day she was on her game, and even a bit friendlier, and we were off.The next stop was Roatan (island), and we are posting this from Tegucigalpa (capitol of Honduras). Hopefully off to Nicaragua tomorrow.
OLD MESSAGE
Going to Roatan (Honduras)- will be out of touch.
Just an FYI that we´ll be out of touch for a couple of weeks beginning tomorrow (Dec 18). We are heading to an island (Roatan) in Honduras for diving certification and likely tons of snorkeling. Unfortunately however, while the island has internet services, it is via satellite and quite expensive (thus being out of touch). All is good, and happy winter solstice celebration!
Rob
Other info is likely available, but this is a start if interested.
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-339843-action-imgsearch-bay_islands_beach_resort-i
Rob´s entry (#2), Acapulco to Guatemala City
Rob’s Entry
Standard disclaimer: Anna does an excellent job covering the positive aspects of our trip, and I try to fill the ‘other side’.
Acapulco to Guatemala City
The bus ride to Acapulco was a bit unique. For days before, my stomach had been queasy at times. The night bus to Acapulco was the last straw. Having little appetite the whole day was good because the evening was met with several rounds of vomiting. Fortunately, the bag didn’t have any holes, though several important things were sprayed. Oh well, at least I felt much better afterwards. Now, on to Acapulco. To many, Acapulco represents a once-in-a-lifetime vacation with cliff divers, upscale resorts, and fine dining. To us however, it was just another city stop to Central America. A chance to wash our clothes (in the lavatory sink) and get caught up on some much-needed sleep. I also needed some recovery from my illness. We stayed in the ‘old city’ ($15/night)- a world away from the other side of the bay. It was a more/less pleasant place; however the air pollution, people, noise (blaring speakers outside virtually every store of any size) was a stress, along with the heat/humidity. Anna was having her moments with some of the pushy people there. Overall, we found many of the Mexican people to be a bit on the ‘rough’ side. This is definitely in contrast to the Guatemalan people (which is where we are currently).
After Acapulco, we went to Puerto Escondido. Our experience of the city coincided with the description in the guide book as a bit of a rough place, though we met many kind people there. This was our first hostel experience (as in youth hostel, not hostile, however that was also the case) together. Prior to this, we always stayed in a cheap private room. The hostel was cheap for one traveler, but not such a good deal for a couple. It was a good place to meet other travelers- something we wanted in order to get info from anyone coming from Central America. While speaking with some people from the hostel on the sidewalk in the evening, a drunk tried to start a fight with me, and shoved me also. Fortunately, I involved the hostel staff and nothing went farther. Though a bit shook up, it didn’t influence my perception of the trip- things like that could happen anywhere. The next day, we decided to move on as bus connections required another night bus and we both had enough of ‘dido. So the remainder of the day was spent in the fairly hot and humid city and at the beach. The beach is famous for great waves- a place for surfers before roads were even paved there. Though I know that waves get bigger in other parts of the world, these were the largest I’ve seen. Judging from the few surfers I saw that day, I’d estimate the waves to be about 15 feet.
Our next stop was Tapachula, very near the Guatemalan boarder. Tap was a busy boarder town, Anna liked it however. As a mini-celebration of crossing our first country ‘milestone’ – Mexico, we decided to splurge for a real sit-down dinner. A little background is in order. Virtually all of our eating out has been from ‘stalls’ – small one or two person push carts on the street. Additionally, we were a bit tired of Mexican food and were craving something Asian. The only Asian option was the restaurant- hence the dinner. While a nice diversion, it had to be some of the worst Chinese food consumed (by myself that is). In addition, the chicken was unquestionably stale, and Anna ultimately concluded that some of the chicken was spoiled. I disagreed however, if it was spoiled, it wasn’t by much, and I consumed the rest. While it made my already touchy stomach a bit queasier, neither of us became sick. This was good, as we were planning on our Guatemala boarder crossing the next day.
The boarder crossing was a bit of a fiasco. Everyone at the boarder (officials, kids hustling everything, money changers, etc.) knows the protocol and exploits visitors at every possible turn. Without going into all the details, the foreigners on the bus all compared details of the transaction to see how badly we were each ripped off. Fortunately, we didn’t come out too bad, and learned a lot in the process. This is important as we have many more boarders to cross before this trip is over. We are already planning how to negotiate our passing into Honduras next week. I’m confident that we’ll have things much more in control next time.
Our first stop in Guatemala was Guatemala City. We went to an arranged homestay. Guatemala City has few attractions, and our homestay was out in the ‘burbs’. This all worked out well as we were a bit strung out and greatly valued the opportunity to chill out. The lady we stayed with shared many interesting stories about how things work in Guatemala (more on that later). We spent the next day doing errands with our host. This included a drive-around, lunch with an actress friend, shopping in the market, and visiting her mother in the nursing home.
Our next stop is Antigua, and will be the start of my next Blog entry.
Antiqua Guatemala UPDATED W-PHOTOS
Anna's Entry
We arrived and enrolled right away into an intense Spanish language program for two weeks. Antigua is world famous for its Spanish language instruction. The guy who owns a school is not the most honest person, however my instructor is great, and for the first week, I’ve learnt A LOT. I have absolutely no training in Spanish, so I started from zero. I’m taking 5 hours per day (with a teacher one on one), and after the first week, I’m actually able to communicate. It’s a LOT of work; I’m spending my all day and night studying!
In addition, we’re staying with a Guatemalan family (who are related to the owner of the school but it’s another story); the mother of the family Maria is a good cook, but not a very nice person. I’ll be upfront about it- I don’t like her, and she does not like me. She doesn’t like me because even though I’ve been married for 10 years, I don’t have kids yet. In her opinion, I should already have at least five of them (for the record, a woman in Guatemala has an average of six kids). I don’t like her because of her simplistic views, ignorance, and overall ‘non-Guatemalan’ character. So far, people I’ve met on the buses, in markets, on the street, etc. have been very polite, friendly, and I’m very surprised that she’s all but none of these things. Ah well…. it's her loss….
We have one more week of Spanish instruction, after that we should be heading out for Honduras. I’m really glad we are getting training in Spanish now- we will need it in the next months of travel. Oh, I also decided to type up my homework in Spanish- describing our time here in Antigua. It’s written in not-complicated Spanish, but, hey- at least I know now more than just ‘thank you’ in Spanish.
Mi esposo Roberto y yo estudiamos en la escuela de Espanol en Antigua por dos semanos. Nosotros vivimos con una familia en la casa cerca de la escuela. Hay cuatro estudiantes en la casa. Una chica es de Japan, y un chico es de Suiza. Todos los estudiantes comen con la familia. La comida es tipica de Guatemala. Nuestra escuela empieza a las ocho de la manana, y termina a la una de la tarde, pero yo tengo mi clase a la una y media de la tardeel martes y el juevez. Es muy importante estudiar y practicar Espanol por cinco horas cada dia porque nosotros tenemos que salir a Honduras en ocho dias. Vamos a visitar las islas en el Atlantico, y nosotros esperamos aprender a bucear. Cuando no tenemos la escuela, nosotros visitamos el mercado, el parque central, el museo y la plaza. Antigua es muy historica, y hay muchas partes interesantes. Pero la ciudad no es muy grande, y es facil caminar al centro. Esta semana es la fiesta de Navidad en el parque central con los fuegos y el concierto.Generalmente, nos gusta la experencia en Guatemala.
Some pictures from a recent fiesta (Guadalupe). The blurry one (2) was taken while walking (a bit on-the-sly, actually they all were somewhat discretely) as there are sometimes issues with photographing children.
This image was something we ran into the other day, not sure what it is beyond entertainment.
Dogs where we are living while going to school.
Antigua at night.
The dish-washing sink.
View over Antigua.
Guatemala City- Guatemala UPDATED W/PHOTOS
Anna's entry
Guatemala City is absolutely not what I imagined. In the books it's described as dirty, polluted, and dangerous. It's possible that because we didn't spend much time there, we didn't run into any issues. However, my impression about the city is very different. Streets are a lot cleaner than in Mexico, and the entire city seems pretty modern. Also, despite of a very tragic past, people seem to be very mellow, friendly, and patient. We stayed with a Guatemalan family for two days – well, actually, just with the other of the family – Adela. Her last of the 4 kids got married, and we actually helped him with a move. Adela has an art studio, and coincidentally just came back from a trip to my hometown – St. Petesburg, Russia. Our second day we spent with Adela., We went everywhere with her – to the market, store, had lunch with her friend (theatre actress(, and visited her mom in a nursing home. The latter was a very emotional experience for me – a lot of memories came up about my own grandma and mom. They both passed away years ago…
In the evening, instead of cooking a Guatemalan food, Adela and we had spaghetti and garlic bread – both Rob and I Have been missing it, after weeks of eating tortillas in Mexico. Our next step is Antigua, Guatemala, where we are planning to enrol in the Spanish classes. In the evening, instead of cooking a Guatemalan food, Adela and we had spaghetti and garlic bread – both Rob and I Have been missing it, after weeks of eating tortillas in Mexico.
Our next step is Antigua, Guatemala, where we are planning to enrol in the Spanish classes.
Pinatas in the tienda
Basket shopping in the market